[Adta] Re: Adta Digest, Vol 15, Issue 37
Naomi
NaomiN at starpower.net
Wed Jan 24 19:11:33 EST 2007
To Perspective Doctoral Students,
If you love to study and there is an issue you want to study in great depth,
then doctoral study will be very satisfying and worthwhile - even exciting.
Conducting my research was a high point in my life - and it has been a very
full one.
Naomi Nim, Ed.D. (multicultural education)
M.S. Dance Therapy (as of 2/1/07)
naomin at starpower.net
301-675-3829
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> 1. handout re non-verbal attunement (Donna Newman-Bluestein)
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> 3. RE: PhD programs (Susan Saenger)
> 4. Re: a question for those with Doctorate Degrees (Robyn Flaum Cruz)
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> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:54:47 -0500
> From: "Donna Newman-Bluestein" <dbluebirds at rcn.com>
> Subject: [Adta] handout re non-verbal attunement
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> Hello All,
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> I am being asked at work (in a nursing home) for hand-outs for non-verbal
attunement for 2 separate purposes - one for a new volunteer program where
volunteers will be trained to give hand massages to people with dementia,
the other as part of a creative arts therapy presentation which will be
given by a music therapist.
>
> I don't have much time to write this up, or do a search, so I wondered if
anyone has any favorites which are brief and succinct that they might direct
me to.
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> Thanks.
> Donna
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> Subject: [Adta] More on Getting a Doctorate -- Chuck Yopst
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> Wednesday, 1:25 pm CST, 24 January 2007
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> To: Laurice Nemetz.
>
> Along with the increased knowledge, resources, credentials and job
> opportunties, getting a doctorate takes a pursuer into meeting a host of
many
> professionals in many fields and places personally that the pursuer would
never have
> been able to do prior. And that alone is almost worth the whole price of
the
> doctorate.
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Chuck Yopst, D.Min., D.T.R., ADTA Illinois Chapter
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> < <
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:13:09 -0500
> From: Laurice Nemetz <lauricedn at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Adta] a question for those with Doctorate Degrees
> To: adta at adta.org
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> Hello to all,
>
> I have been contemplating pursuing a doctorate degree for a while and
> have been investigating several programs, particularly those
> self-directed such as Union and now Lesley. I wanted to ask those of
> you who have doctorate degrees what area they are in ( I've seen
> everything from education, medical DMT, psychology, etc. to more obscure
> titles), as well as to what has been most useful. Among my consulting
> jobs, I have been teaching in a university setting (yoga as well as
> guesting in the psychology department under DMT), but in order to be
> tenure-tracked I will need a doctorate. I also believe it can lend a
> lot of credibility to what I do, but I am putting this question out to
> all of you. As many of you know, I do have two small children so I am
> looking for flexibility in working this through.
>
> Thanks for any responses. You can email privately, or if you have
> information that will benefit the greater membership for discussion,
> please reply that way.
>
> Best,
> Lauri
>
> Laurice D. Nemetz, MA, ADTR, RYT, LCAT
> Wellness Bridge
> > >
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:18:30 -0500
> From: "Susan Saenger" <ssaenger at nc.rr.com>
> Subject: [Adta] RE: PhD programs
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> me too. I'm really interested in a program where I can continue to learn
> from dance therapists, though. Or at least people who really get where
we're
> coming from. Any ideas about good programs are welcome!
>
> Susan Saenger
>
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> From: "Lora Wilson" <writelora at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Adta] a question for those with Doctorate Degrees
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> Laurice -
> Thank you for asking the question. I personally have been wrestling with
> the PhD question for a couple of years and have too been wondering what
> would be the most useful/lucrative/fulfilling degree. I am also
interested
> in hearing the answers from our PhDs about their respective
specializations
> and hope that all will reply to the general listserve.
>
> Thanks!
> Lora Wilson, MA, DTR
> Long Beach, CA
>
>
> >From: Laurice Nemetz <lauricedn at yahoo.com>
> >To: adta at adta.org
> >Subject: [Adta] a question for those with Doctorate Degrees
> >Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:13:09 -0500
> >
> >Hello to all,
> >
> >I have been contemplating pursuing a doctorate degree for a while and
have
> >been investigating several programs, particularly those self-directed
such
> >as Union and now Lesley. I wanted to ask those of you who have doctorate
> >degrees what area they are in ( I've seen everything from education,
> >medical DMT, psychology, etc. to more obscure titles), as well as to what
> >has been most useful. Among my consulting jobs, I have been teaching in
a
> >university setting (yoga as well as guesting in the psychology department
> >under DMT), but in order to be tenure-tracked I will need a doctorate. I
> >also believe it can lend a lot of credibility to what I do, but I am
> >putting this question out to all of you. As many of you know, I do have
> >two small children so I am looking for flexibility in working this
through.
> >
> >Thanks for any responses. You can email privately, or if you have
> >information that will benefit the greater membership for discussion,
please
> >reply that way.
> >
> >Best,
> >Lauri
> >
> >Laurice D. Nemetz, MA, ADTR, RYT, LCAT
> >Wellness Bridge
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> From: "Robyn Flaum Cruz" <robyncruz at stargate.net>
> Subject: Re: [Adta] a question for those with Doctorate Degrees
> To: "Laurice Nemetz" <lauricedn at yahoo.com>, <adta at adta.org>
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> Hi Laurice,
>
> I got my doctorate in Educational Psychology with a specialization in
> measurement and methdology at the University of Arizona. It was a very
> traditional program but that worked well for me. Even though I was an
> "older" student at the time and I did have to search for faculty who would
> support my research interests and who were willing to learn about dance
> therapy from me, it was truly rewarding. Two of those faculty are now
> retired but I am still frequently in touch with all of them and they are
> still always willing to assist me when I need them and they delight in
> keeping up with where my career goes! Another bonus for a traditional
> program was that I developed a wonderful study group (that usually met
> around my dining room table) and I keep in touch with several of them even
> though I graduated in 1995. Because I quickly identified faculty who were
> willing to stretch to work with me, and because I had my research interest
> identified, I was able to finish in slightly under 4 years going at it
> full-time and working only part-time. I now feel that those years were
some
> of the best of my entire life because the challenge to my thinking
processes
> was immense, and the experience of doctoral education really was
> transformative for me.
>
> Now I do some of my teaching in the doctoral program in Expressive
Therapies
> at Lesley University and I see an advantage for my students in that they
do
> not need to translate music therapy or dance therapy or whatever their
> training is for faculty. They do not have to search for faculty who are
> willing to be educated about what they do as I did. They also have more
> flexibility because the program is low-residency, and they have the
> opportunity to form study groups or cohorts using technology rather than
the
> dining room table : ) The transformative factor seems to be equally a
> positive factor for them also -- at an upcoming doctoral conference in
> March, one of my doctoral students who is still pre-dissertation is
> presenting on his transformative learning.
>
> It is wonderful that there are so many options available, now that
> low-residency programs are taking hold and also now that there is the
> opportunity for doctoral study geared toward arts therapists. Hope at
least
> some of this helps! Robyn
>
> Robyn Flaum Cruz, Ph.D., ADTR
> Editor-in-Chief, The Arts in Psychotherapy
> www.elsevier.com/locate/artspsycho
> President, American Dance Therapy Association
> www.adta.org
> Associate Professor & Coordinator of Dance Therapy,
> Expressive Therapies Division, Lesley University, Cambridge, MA
> 617-349-8413 or 412-401-1274
> www.lesley.edu/gsass/56etp.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laurice Nemetz" <lauricedn at yahoo.com>
> To: <adta at adta.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:13 PM
> Subject: [Adta] a question for those with Doctorate Degrees
>
>
> > Hello to all,
> >
> > I have been contemplating pursuing a doctorate degree for a while and
have
> > been investigating several programs, particularly those self-directed
such
> > as Union and now Lesley. I wanted to ask those of you who have
doctorate
> > degrees what area they are in ( I've seen everything from education,
> > medical DMT, psychology, etc. to more obscure titles), as well as to
what
> > has been most useful. Among my consulting jobs, I have been teaching in
a
> > university setting (yoga as well as guesting in the psychology
department
> > under DMT), but in order to be tenure-tracked I will need a doctorate.
I
> > also believe it can lend a lot of credibility to what I do, but I am
> > putting this question out to all of you. As many of you know, I do have
> > two small children so I am looking for flexibility in working this
> > through.
> >
> > Thanks for any responses. You can email privately, or if you have
> > information that will benefit the greater membership for discussion,
> > please reply that way.
> >
> > Best,
> > Lauri
> >
> > Laurice D. Nemetz, MA, ADTR, RYT, LCAT
> > Wellness Bridge
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:32:57 -0500
> From: NancyCrystals at cs.com
> Subject: [Adta] (no subject)
> To: adta at adta.org
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> Dear friends and collegues,
> If you have any published or unpublished work relating dance therapy to
mask-making, I would like very much to include it in a paper I am writing on
this subject. Please include the reference if it is published. If it is
not in print, please send me a short synopsis describing your work,
including the year or years the work was accomplished. You can Email the
information to me at nancycrystals at cs.com. Thanking you in advance...
>
> Peace,
> Nancy Koprak,MA,ADTR,LCAT
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:01:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jenn Frank <frankdance2003 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Adta] Re: PhD for DMT's?
> To: adta at adta.org
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> Lora and Laurice,
>
> I third that motion! I am in the process of applying to SBGI for a PhD
in Clinical Psych, with an emphasis in Somatic Psychology. I have
researched numerous schools, and to me, the typical PhD sounds like nostly
research, which peresonally, I don't think I can sustain for more than a
year or two. The PsyD sounds good, but it really seemed like a lot of
repetition of what we already do...but sitting and talking, instead of using
the body...I would have to stop the moving/body aspect of studies and work,
which is not something I want to do at this time...
>
> I, too would love to hear from DMT 's who have pursued a PhD:
>
> For those who wish to share info:
>
> 1. Where did you go, and how did you decide?
> 2. How did you incorporate your degree with DMT work?
> 3. Did your PhD improve your career/
> If so, how?
> 4. Please add any other information that you would like to share!
>
> Thank you!
>
> ~Jenn Frank Tantia
>
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> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:59:00 +0000
> From: "Lora Wilson"
> Subject: RE: [Adta] a question for those with Doctorate Degrees
> To: adta at adta.org
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> Laurice -
> Thank you for asking the question. I personally have been wrestling with
> the PhD question for a couple of years and have too been wondering what
> would be the most useful/lucrative/fulfilling degree. I am also interested
> in hearing the answers from our PhDs about their respective
specializations
> and hope that all will reply to the general listserve.
>
> Thanks!
> Lora Wilson, MA, DTR
> Long Beach, CA
>
>
> >From: Laurice Nemetz
> >To: adta at adta.org
> >Subject: [Adta] a question for those with Doctorate Degrees
> >Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:13:09 -0500
> >
> >Hello to all,
> >
> >I have been contemplating pursuing a doctorate degree for a while and
have
> >been investigating several programs, particularly those self-directed
such
> >as Union and now Lesley. I wanted to ask those of you who have doctorate
> >degrees what area they are in ( I've seen everything from education,
> >medical DMT, psychology, etc. to more obscure titles), as well as to what
> >has been most useful. Among my consulting jobs, I have been teaching in a
> >university setting (yoga as well as guesting in the psychology department
> >under DMT), but in order to be tenure-tracked I will need a doctorate. I
> >also believe it can lend a lot of credibility to what I do, but I am
> >putting this question out to all of you. As many of you know, I do have
> >two small children so I am looking for flexibility in working this
through.
> >
> >Thanks for any responses. You can email privately, or if you have
> >information that will benefit the greater membership for discussion,
please
> >reply that way.
> >
> >Best,
> >Lauri
> >
> >Laurice D. Nemetz, MA, ADTR, RYT, LCAT
> >Wellness Bridge
> >
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