[Adta] Re: Adta Digest, Vol 24, Issue 28
Monica Beltran
beltran at kennedykrieger.org
Mon Oct 8 22:20:46 EDT 2007
Dear Nana,
The attachment was too large to go through. You can access the article
and others at:
http://www.traumacenter.org
Click on publications at the top.
Then click on publications again in the body of the web page. Happy
reading.
Monica Beltran
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1. RE: Teaching a course on Presenting the Profession (Lora Wilson)
2. neuroscience article (nana59 at aol.com)
3. job listing (Hervey, Lenore)
4. RE: job listing (skdmt2)
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:13:27 +0000
From: Lora Wilson <writelora at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Adta] Teaching a course on Presenting the Profession
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Dear Nava, Heather and all,
I too think a course geared toward presenting the profession would be
brilliant. Heather, you mentioned role playing in your classes... Annie
Kirschenmann had us do a similar exercise in her intensive at last
year's conference where we walked next to someone and role played
sharing what we do (in the service of being better equipped to market
our work to prospective clients/agencies, etc.) I felt empowered after
that exercise.. clearly my empowerment wasn't with me during my
"experience" at the hospital last week... but the day of the intensive I
felt great! :-)
I think a stuctured class over time that perhaps culminated in each
student's own powerpoint inservice with interchangeable slides for
different populations would be of great benefit ( or handouts or
whatever the student wanted to create.) The student would graduate with
a ready made tool to use to solicit work, to educate co-workers... How
many times have we seen posts on the listserve for advice about how to
present an inservice and for research to back one's inservice?
The PR committee is starting a project under Christina Devereaux'
leadership that is related to having research-based summaries available
for members... but if the core curriculum could start to include this
sort of class - each D/MT would have their own ready made, personalized
PR kit done upon graduation! WITH practice before others utilizing it.
The class could be "professional issues" and could go beyond presenting
to include all issues that arise once in the workforce.
On a loosely related note, my undergrad was in theatre and my alma
mater recently did a survey of graduates to find out, among other
things, what course did we all wish we could have had during our time
there. Overwhelmingly, people wrote in about a course that prepared
them for "getting work" and living in the "real world." Seems we're
talking about a similar course in our field...
Best,
Lora Wilson, MA, DTR
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:29:53 -0400
From: nana59 at aol.com
Subject: [Adta] neuroscience article
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Dear Monica,
The article attachment did not come through on my computer. Please
provide the link so it's accessible.
Thanks,
Nana Koch
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Dear Jenn,
I agree that learning about neuroscience is vital in our work. There's
actually
one person who has begun to write about interoception. That's Bessel
van der
Kolk. p 287. Clinical Implications of Neuroscience Research, 2006.
Annals of NY
Academy of Science. I hope that you can receive the attachment which is
the
article. It's a wonderful article.
Monica Beltran, LCSW-C, ADTR
Baltimore, MD
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1. WOW_ (skdmt2)
2. DANCE THERAPY WORKSHOP NYC October (miriam berger)
3. Neuroscience (Sabine Koch)
4. Response to Heather, Lora re: neuroscience (Jenn Frank)
5. neuroscience etc (Heather Hill)
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:23:26 -0400
From: "skdmt2" <skdmt2 at bellsouth.net>
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I just unpacked the written program from our opening & it's a "wow"
also!
What a first class event this was. Marylee, Christina, & everyone, I've
been
forwarding the pictures ( w/ the fantastic music) to everyone I know
that I
thought might appreciate it & they have!
Now, I see that the program acknowledges everyone , including the
non
d/mts from Brooklyn & I'm learning about who they are.
What a wonderful way to bring our worlds together.
Susan Kleinman, MA, ADTR, NCC
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:48:23 -0400
From: miriam berger <mb33 at nyu.edu>
Subject: [Adta] DANCE THERAPY WORKSHOP NYC October
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FALL WEEKEND WORKSHOP OCT. 20 and 21, SAT and SUN, at the Harkness
Dance
Center of the 92nd Street Y
(92nd St and Lexington Avenue, NYC)
Applicable to ADTA CEUs and Alternate Route Training.
TO register and for more information contact:
Kathryn Wilkening, Program Manager <KWilkening at 92y.org> Tel:
212-415-5553
DANCE/MOVEMENT THERAPY FOR PEOPLE WITH TRAUMATIC INJURY, CHRONIC
ILLNESS OR
TERMINAL ILLNESS
SAT and SUN, Oct 20 & 21, 1 - 8:30pm, 2 sessions, $250 plus $22 reg.
fee
Faculty: Cathy Appel, LCSW, LCAT, MFA, ADTR
This workshop will examine the clinical applications of dance/movement
therapy for people coping with traumatic injury, chronic illness or
terminal illness. We will cover assessment, engagement, treatment
planning
and clinical interventions, as well as methods and techniques of D/MT
for
use with specific populations and clinical settings. Areas of focus
will
be identifying movement qualities, mourning physical losses, issues of
transference and counter-transference, adapting to physical
differences,
developing a personal and group movement repertory, stress and pain
management, self-advocacy and maximizing resources, such as culture,
music
or spirituality. Sessions will comprise lecture, discussion, movement
experiences and video.
CATHY APPEL, LCSW, LCAT, MFA, ADTR directs the Creative and Movement
Arts
Psychotherapy Program she founded in 1992 at ICD (International Center
for
the Disabled) in the Behavioral Medicine Department. A former ballet
dancer, Ms. Appel trained at the American Ballet Theater School and
with
Leon Fokine. She performed with the Pennsylvania Ballet Company and
later
attended Sarah Lawrence College, where she was introduced to modern
dance.
Ms. Appel performed in Doris Humphrey's Day on Earth with Dance
Junction
and with her own company until the mid 1980s. Influenced by the work
of
Meredith Monk to explore multi-media performance that resonates within
the
body as it reflects and interacts with the imaginal, external and
archetypal world, she went on to study Body-Mind Centering and
Authentic
Movement. As part of her exploration of verbal and nonverbal
expression,
and to broaden her creative work, Ms. Appel earned two MFAs in Writing
from
Vermont College and Warren Wilson College, culminating in her thesis,
Recognizing the Dance. She has published poems in journals, textbooks
and
anthologies. As her focus shifted to the relationship between dance
and
healing, she pursued an MSW and an MS in dance therapy from Hunter
College.
She has taught workshops and classes at the School of Visual Arts,
Goddard
College, NYU and Sarah Lawrence and at organizations such as the Red
Cross,
the MS Society and Montefiore Hospital. Ms. Appel was Senior Editor
and
author of two chapters in the Second Revised Edition (2005) of the
dance
therapy textbook, Dance Movement Therapy: A Healing Art (F. Levy Ed.).
She
was co-editor of the American Journal of Dance Therapy and has a
private
practice in New York City.
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:24:12 +0200
From: Sabine Koch <sabine.koch at urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Subject: [Adta] Neuroscience
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Dear Lora,
I think you are absolutely right. Neuroscience needs to be a
requirement
in DMT training.
I am glad it is now in the US. I will check out Europe.
Best regards,
Sabine
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Dr. Sabine C. Koch
Institute of Psychology
University of Heidelberg
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69117 Heidelberg/Germany
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:22:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jenn Frank <frankdance2003 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Adta] Response to Heather, Lora re: neuroscience
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What a great discussion we've got going here!
Lora, thank you for your initiation, and Heather for your response.
I wanted
to include your post, but I'm afraid it will get "scrubbed" for being
too long,
so I'll attempt to respond "sans serif" (I just learned that that
means- without
feet" in web-design land)
I have become quite a neuro-phile as of late, and I've been
wondering, like
Heather, why we feel the need to somehow prove something to the
neuroscientists.
(If that is what you meant, Heather?). We do have so much more to offer
in
research styles, etc...do we have to jump on the bandwagon?
Well...It couldn't hurt, could it?
It makes me furious that some guy (okay, a really smart guy whose
worked on
this stuff for decades) comes up with the word, "mirror neurons" when
Dance
Therapists have been using the term, "mirroring" for fifty years!!!
Something
is wrong with this picture.
I think we owe ourselves, as progressive, intelligent and creative
professionals, the opportunity to find a way into this world to make
ourselves
known; not because we already know this stuff, but because we can add
to it!
Neuroscience is still studying the movement within the brain
(attachment, as
it is processed inside the brain, etc...). We're already using the
clinical
application of movement of the body.
Proprioceptive memory is our greatest asset as dance therapists, and
they
haven't even touched it yet! Let's find a way to work together! I
think that
we'll all benefit from it...
OKay. Off my soapbox. Anyone else?
~Jenn
Heather wrote:
While the above in some way makes our task of being validated in the
eyes of "science", I found this an incredibly liberating concept a) in
taking away the mantle of authority and "reality" from the accepted
"scientific" view (basically it's just one of many ways to view the
world),
b) it did show me what I was up against but c) it helped me get some
idea of where to put my efforts in terms of establishing dance
therapy.
There are of course no easy answers - we're up against a mammoth for
sure - but I don't feel intimidated by it now and I don't feel the
need
to try and conform to its particular standards.
Having said all that, I realise of course the realities of trying to
get our work accepted in settings which don't subscribe to our values,
the goals we set in our work and even our worldviews.
I am interested in your response about not just dancing but also
learning about neuroscience etc. - and please don't take this as a
criticism
for I'm sure I've said similar things too in the past - Yet why should
neuroscience be more worthy or weighty than dance? In our hearts and
among our fellow dance therapists, we know it's not - but when the
headlights of society's reality beams on us, as you say, like an
animal
facing a car's headlights at night, we become disoriented and lose our
sense of where we are...and therefore get flattened!
Yes let's learn about neuroscience, as we do about anatomy, but not as
a justification to give to our colleagues. It is useful to know some
of this language, to be realistic, as way to establish some
credentials
to competency - and a starting point for communication perhaps. But
if we wish to retain the essence of what our work is about, we are
going
to have to find ways to stand up for our language and our ways of
working. And let's face it, we will never ever - unless we totally
transform dance therapy - be sufficient for a scientifical model.
Let's just
accept that - and move on. And do we want to be anyway???
Jennifer Frank Tantia, MS, ADTR, LCAT
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From: "Heather Hill" <heatherhill at hotkey.net.au>
Subject: [Adta] neuroscience etc
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Thanks for your response, Jenn. I so agree that we have lots of offer
from our
dance therapy perspective.
Just wanted to bring up an instance which nearly got me writing to the
newspaper
- except I was too busy at the time and am not really expert in this
early
childhood field.
Last week, the discussion came up again on the impact, particularly
for very
young children, of TV watching - it seems there's been some research
showing
that children who have watched a lot of TV, end up with behavioural
problems
later on. The discussion on this was all about the effects of seeing
violence
on TV etc. but so far as I could gather, no one was talking about the
impact of
young bodies staying still and constricted for so long. Surely dance
therapists
would have a lot to say about this eg developmentally, small children
need to
move their bodies (where does all that free flowing energy go if they
don't
move?), they also use their bodies to learn about the world, to act out
their
imagination, feelings, social interactions etc....and so on. I wonder
if any
dance therapists have managed to give some input to this discussion in
the U.S.?
Lora - thanks again for starting up the discussion.
Best wishes,
Heather
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:43:39 -0500
From: "Hervey, Lenore" <lhervey at colum.edu>
Subject: [Adta] job listing
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Did any of you see this listing in the ACA newsletter? I thought it
might be of interest to some of our members who work from a Christian
orientation. I don't know anything about the organization however.
This
listing is on monster.com as an expressive therapist, at Remuda Ranch
in
Virginia, a residential facility that treats women with eating
disorders.
http://jobsearch.remudaranch.careers.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=627078
40&AVSDM=2007%2D09%2D20+13%3A08%3A27&Logo=0&col=dlt&sort=rv&vw=b&lid=637
&fn=3976&q=expressive+therapist
Lenore W. Hervey, Ph.D., ADTR, NCC, REAT
Acting Chair
Dance/Movement Therapy & Counseling Dept.
Columbia College Chicago
600 S. Michigan Ave.
Chicago, IL 60605
312-344-8548
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:10:56 -0400
From: "skdmt2" <skdmt2 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [Adta] job listing
To: "'Hervey, Lenore'" <lhervey at colum.edu>, <adta at adta.org>
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Hi Lenore & everybody
Remuda is a well known eating disorder facility that does "bible
based"
therapy. They are based in Arizona but have recently also opened a
facility
in VA.
Sounds like this could be an opportunity or someone who shares this
kind of
philosophy
Susan Kleinman, MA, ADTR, NCC
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Subject: [Adta] job listing
Did any of you see this listing in the ACA newsletter? I thought it
might be
of interest to some of our members who work from a Christian
orientation. I
don't know anything about the organization however. This listing is on
monster.com as an expressive therapist, at Remuda Ranch in Virginia, a
residential facility that treats women with eating disorders.
http://jobsearch.remudaranch.careers.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=62707840
<http://jobsearch.remudaranch.careers.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=62707840&
AVSDM=2007%2D09%2D20+13%3A08%3A27&Logo=0&col=dlt&sort=rv&vw=b&lid=637&fn=397
6&q=expressive+therapist>
&AVSDM=2007%2D09%2D20+13%3A08%3A27&Logo=0&col=dlt&sort=rv&vw=b&lid=637&fn=39
76&q=expressive+therapist
Lenore W. Hervey, Ph.D., ADTR, NCC, REAT
Acting Chair
Dance/Movement Therapy & Counseling Dept.
Columbia College Chicago
600 S. Michigan Ave.
Chicago, IL 60605
312-344-8548
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