[Adta] Re: Adta Digest, Vol 24,
Issue 17Thanks so much for including the article
Marjorie Falk
mfalk at bcpl.net
Mon Oct 8 23:08:01 EDT 2007
Dear Monica,
Thanks so much for including the article as a pdf.
Marjorie Falk
Towson MD
mfalk at bcpl.net
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Dear Jenn,
I agree that learning about neuroscience is vital in our work. There's
actually one person who has begun to write about interoception. That's
Bessel van der Kolk. p 287. Clinical Implications of Neuroscience Research,
2006. Annals of NY Academy of Science. I hope that you can receive the
attachment which is the article. It's a wonderful article.
Monica Beltran, LCSW-C, ADTR
Baltimore, MD
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Today's Topics:
1. WOW_ (skdmt2)
2. DANCE THERAPY WORKSHOP NYC October (miriam berger)
3. Neuroscience (Sabine Koch)
4. Response to Heather, Lora re: neuroscience (Jenn Frank)
5. neuroscience etc (Heather Hill)
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:23:26 -0400
From: "skdmt2" <skdmt2 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: [Adta] WOW_
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I just unpacked the written program from our opening & it's a "wow" also!
What a first class event this was. Marylee, Christina, & everyone, I've been
forwarding the pictures ( w/ the fantastic music) to everyone I know that I
thought might appreciate it & they have!
Now, I see that the program acknowledges everyone , including the non
d/mts from Brooklyn & I'm learning about who they are.
What a wonderful way to bring our worlds together.
Susan Kleinman, MA, ADTR, NCC
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:48:23 -0400
From: miriam berger <mb33 at nyu.edu>
Subject: [Adta] DANCE THERAPY WORKSHOP NYC October
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FALL WEEKEND WORKSHOP OCT. 20 and 21, SAT and SUN, at the Harkness Dance
Center of the 92nd Street Y (92nd St and Lexington Avenue, NYC) Applicable
to ADTA CEUs and Alternate Route Training.
TO register and for more information contact:
Kathryn Wilkening, Program Manager <KWilkening at 92y.org> Tel: 212-415-5553
DANCE/MOVEMENT THERAPY FOR PEOPLE WITH TRAUMATIC INJURY, CHRONIC ILLNESS OR
TERMINAL ILLNESS SAT and SUN, Oct 20 & 21, 1 - 8:30pm, 2 sessions, $250 plus
$22 reg. fee
Faculty: Cathy Appel, LCSW, LCAT, MFA, ADTR This workshop will examine the
clinical applications of dance/movement therapy for people coping with
traumatic injury, chronic illness or terminal illness. We will cover
assessment, engagement, treatment planning and clinical interventions, as
well as methods and techniques of D/MT for
use with specific populations and clinical settings. Areas of focus will
be identifying movement qualities, mourning physical losses, issues of
transference and counter-transference, adapting to physical differences,
developing a personal and group movement repertory, stress and pain
management, self-advocacy and maximizing resources, such as culture, music
or spirituality. Sessions will comprise lecture, discussion, movement
experiences and video.
CATHY APPEL, LCSW, LCAT, MFA, ADTR directs the Creative and Movement Arts
Psychotherapy Program she founded in 1992 at ICD (International Center for
the Disabled) in the Behavioral Medicine Department. A former ballet
dancer, Ms. Appel trained at the American Ballet Theater School and with
Leon Fokine. She performed with the Pennsylvania Ballet Company and later
attended Sarah Lawrence College, where she was introduced to modern dance.
Ms. Appel performed in Doris Humphrey's Day on Earth with Dance Junction and
with her own company until the mid 1980s. Influenced by the work of
Meredith Monk to explore multi-media performance that resonates within the
body as it reflects and interacts with the imaginal, external and archetypal
world, she went on to study Body-Mind Centering and Authentic Movement. As
part of her exploration of verbal and nonverbal expression, and to broaden
her creative work, Ms. Appel earned two MFAs in Writing from Vermont College
and Warren Wilson College, culminating in her thesis, Recognizing the Dance.
She has published poems in journals, textbooks and anthologies. As her
focus shifted to the relationship between dance and healing, she pursued an
MSW and an MS in dance therapy from Hunter College.
She has taught workshops and classes at the School of Visual Arts, Goddard
College, NYU and Sarah Lawrence and at organizations such as the Red Cross,
the MS Society and Montefiore Hospital. Ms. Appel was Senior Editor and
author of two chapters in the Second Revised Edition (2005) of the dance
therapy textbook, Dance Movement Therapy: A Healing Art (F. Levy Ed.). She
was co-editor of the American Journal of Dance Therapy and has a private
practice in New York City.
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:24:12 +0200
From: Sabine Koch <sabine.koch at urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Subject: [Adta] Neuroscience
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Dear Lora,
I think you are absolutely right. Neuroscience needs to be a requirement in
DMT training.
I am glad it is now in the US. I will check out Europe.
Best regards,
Sabine
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Dr. Sabine C. Koch
Institute of Psychology
University of Heidelberg
Hauptstrasse 47-51
69117 Heidelberg/Germany
phone: ++49 (0) 6221 547297
eMail: sabine.koch at urz.uni-heidelberg.de
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:22:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jenn Frank <frankdance2003 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Adta] Response to Heather, Lora re: neuroscience
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What a great discussion we've got going here!
Lora, thank you for your initiation, and Heather for your response. I
wanted to include your post, but I'm afraid it will get "scrubbed" for being
too long, so I'll attempt to respond "sans serif" (I just learned that that
means- without feet" in web-design land)
I have become quite a neuro-phile as of late, and I've been wondering,
like Heather, why we feel the need to somehow prove something to the
neuroscientists. (If that is what you meant, Heather?). We do have so much
more to offer in research styles, etc...do we have to jump on the bandwagon?
Well...It couldn't hurt, could it?
It makes me furious that some guy (okay, a really smart guy whose worked
on this stuff for decades) comes up with the word, "mirror neurons" when
Dance Therapists have been using the term, "mirroring" for fifty years!!!
Something is wrong with this picture.
I think we owe ourselves, as progressive, intelligent and creative
professionals, the opportunity to find a way into this world to make
ourselves known; not because we already know this stuff, but because we can
add to it!
Neuroscience is still studying the movement within the brain (attachment,
as it is processed inside the brain, etc...). We're already using the
clinical application of movement of the body.
Proprioceptive memory is our greatest asset as dance therapists, and they
haven't even touched it yet! Let's find a way to work together! I think
that we'll all benefit from it...
OKay. Off my soapbox. Anyone else?
~Jenn
Heather wrote:
While the above in some way makes our task of being validated in the eyes
of "science", I found this an incredibly liberating concept a) in taking
away the mantle of authority and "reality" from the accepted "scientific"
view (basically it's just one of many ways to view the world),
b) it did show me what I was up against but c) it helped me get some idea of
where to put my efforts in terms of establishing dance therapy.
There are of course no easy answers - we're up against a mammoth for sure
- but I don't feel intimidated by it now and I don't feel the need to try
and conform to its particular standards.
Having said all that, I realise of course the realities of trying to get our
work accepted in settings which don't subscribe to our values, the goals we
set in our work and even our worldviews.
I am interested in your response about not just dancing but also learning
about neuroscience etc. - and please don't take this as a criticism for I'm
sure I've said similar things too in the past - Yet why should neuroscience
be more worthy or weighty than dance? In our hearts and among our fellow
dance therapists, we know it's not - but when the headlights of society's
reality beams on us, as you say, like an animal facing a car's headlights at
night, we become disoriented and lose our sense of where we are...and
therefore get flattened!
Yes let's learn about neuroscience, as we do about anatomy, but not as a
justification to give to our colleagues. It is useful to know some of this
language, to be realistic, as way to establish some credentials to
competency - and a starting point for communication perhaps. But if we wish
to retain the essence of what our work is about, we are going to have to
find ways to stand up for our language and our ways of working. And let's
face it, we will never ever - unless we totally transform dance therapy - be
sufficient for a scientifical model. Let's just accept that - and move on.
And do we want to be anyway???
Jennifer Frank Tantia, MS, ADTR, LCAT
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:30:35 +1000
From: "Heather Hill" <heatherhill at hotkey.net.au>
Subject: [Adta] neuroscience etc
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Thanks for your response, Jenn. I so agree that we have lots of offer from
our dance therapy perspective.
Just wanted to bring up an instance which nearly got me writing to the
newspaper - except I was too busy at the time and am not really expert in
this early childhood field.
Last week, the discussion came up again on the impact, particularly for
very young children, of TV watching - it seems there's been some research
showing that children who have watched a lot of TV, end up with behavioural
problems later on. The discussion on this was all about the effects of
seeing violence on TV etc. but so far as I could gather, no one was talking
about the impact of young bodies staying still and constricted for so long.
Surely dance therapists would have a lot to say about this eg
developmentally, small children need to move their bodies (where does all
that free flowing energy go if they don't move?), they also use their bodies
to learn about the world, to act out their imagination, feelings, social
interactions etc....and so on. I wonder if any dance therapists have
managed to give some input to this discussion in the U.S.?
Lora - thanks again for starting up the discussion.
Best wishes,
Heather
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